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Do we need to squat? How much?

The topic of squatting comes up in various forms in our IronOnline forum. Yesterday, the question was, “What’s up with the less squatting trend? Why am I hearing from multiple sources that things like sled dragging and hill sprints are better than squatting?”

Glenn Pendlay, the speaker for our 10th Annual IronOnline bash event in Kansas City October 8th & 9th (and yes, we’re filming for DVD), provided the following thoughts.

Glenn writes:
I recently answered a similar question on my forum, so, I think I will give this whole squat thing the ol’ college try.

The first assumption I will make is that we all have goals, and are looking to work upwards in terms of physical capacity to reach these goals.

Next, I would like to bring up a situation regarding shot putters that I have read. I can’t find the source, but will try to be as accurate as I can. And YES, I will eventually tie all this together!!! Seems that a shot putter’s improvement shows some correlation to his bench press strength as the bench goes from 300 to 400lbs, but little or no correlation is shown as the bench press goes from 400 to 500lbs.

This is very interesting! Seems that for a dynamic and fast athletic event like throwing a 16lb ball, a certain amount of basic strength is needed to do your best, but past that, further increases don’t seem to matter as much.

Now let me postulate the following. For any physical activity, there is a certain amount of pure brute strength needed to perform one’s best. In general, the level of strength needed goes down as the speed of the movement increases and also goes down the longer the event drags on. Yes, anyone could find a few holes in this—I am speaking in generalities here.

Let us also consider—and this might be the most important concept in this post—there is such a thing as opportunity cost. For those who have never taken economics, this means that the cost of investing your money in one instrument is the subsequent inability to invest it in other instruments. Same thing applies to your time, and… wait for it… your RECOVERY ability. Yes, you have a finite amount of recovery ability, and every single thing you do in training means that there are other things that you can’t do.

Now to tie it together. The squat is probably the best single builder of brute strength in the lower body that exists in the planet earth. But does that mean it is the best exercise for everyone, or, that increasing the squat should be the prime goal of everyone? After all, squatting probably makes demands on the body that exceed almost every other exercise out there in terms of recovery.

At this point, I am betting that if there are 100 people who read this, 99.5 of them get where I am going and I shouldn’t have to type another word. But in the interest of the other half a person who still doesn’t get it, I will tie it together.

Whatever your goal in life or sports, there is a minimum amount of basic leg strength you should have in order to be your best. For an elite-level shot putter this might be a 500lb squat. For an elite-level 94kg weight class Olympic weightlifter, this might be a 600lb squat. For a 160lb dude who likes to hike up and down mountains, this might be a 300lb squat. I am just making these numbers up, keep that in mind, but rest assured, such numbers do exist even if we can’t actually account for them.

If you don’t have whatever basic amount of strength is required to be your best at your sport, more squatting is rarely a bad idea. If you already have this adequate amount of strength? Well, remember what opportunity cost is, and how it applies to training?

Above all, remember the concept of opportunity cost. People have gotten really, really strong squatting once a week. Yes, squatting three times a week puts muscular weight on like nothing else, but is that your main goal? Is that important enough to you that you are willing to sacrifice all the other training that you now can’t do because you are squatting three times a week?

I hope this is well enough presented to make sense to everyone. If not, maybe Dan John can simplify and improve on it. He obviously writes MUCH better than I do, and I am reminded of that every time I try to communicate anything that requires more than one or two sentences.

~Glenn Pendlay


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  1. on September 1st, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    For me, squatting is critical, but, I powerlift. Some folks have no desire to move mountains of weight on their backs, so, should they squat, and if so, how? Like a powerlifter? More like a body builder? What about single leg squats?

    I absolutely think this is a critical exercise to have in some form, but depending on goals, certain variations will be better, and others should be avoided all together. Thanks for the article.

  2. Michael H said,

    on September 1st, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    great advice!!! I’ve been squatting once a week anyway. :) would you say the same about say deadlift and bench press. Also, what would you say are MUST do exercises in order to become really powerful.

  3. Terry Strand said,

    on September 2nd, 2010 at 4:23 am

    I have my clients do heavy barbell full squats AND lighter one legged squats. Too many guys can squat three or four or five hundred pounds, but get winded with simple rep squats, or are unable to do one-legged squats at all. Do it all, I say, light, heavy, sled work, pushing a car, squatting, and you won’t need to scratch your heads wondering which is ‘best’.

  4. Les Tallosi said,

    on September 3rd, 2010 at 9:47 am

    I’ve always substituted deadlifts twice a week, one heavy and one light, it hits everything and I’m satisfied with the results.

  5. John Baron said,

    on September 3rd, 2010 at 12:02 pm

    Big men squat heavy and deep. Men who want to get big better squat heavy and deep,

  6. WickedWillie said,

    on September 29th, 2010 at 7:11 am

    Good article, good thoughts.

    Squatting is a very valuable movement. Is it the only movement? NO – some cannot squat safely…and the deadlift or power clean suits these folks better.

    Opportunity cost – I’ve seldom heard it put so cleanly. There is a cost associated with everything you do…are you creating a point of diminishing returns or elevated risk by doing what you are doing? How much strength is enough for your chosen activity?

    Are you aware of the goal and keeping the goal “the goal?”

    Good thoughts Glenn, and nicely stated.

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